Draw a Stickman: EPIC 3 APK

Version 1.2.17408 - com.hitcents.drawastickmanepic3
Last updated: 2020-05-24

Draw your own EPIC HERO!

Draw a Stickman: EPIC 3 apk

APP Information

Download Version 1.2.17408 (17408)
Apk Size153.18 MB
App DeveloperHitcents
Malware CheckTRUSTED
Install on Android4.4.x and up
App Packagecom.hitcents.drawastickmanepic3.apk
Website http://www.drawastickman.com/

Download Draw a Stickman: EPIC 3 1.2.17408 APK

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Draw a Stickman: EPIC 3 is hitcents,drawastickmanepic3,adventure,epic, content rating is Everyone (PEGI-3). This app is rated 3 by 8 users who are using this app. To know more about the company/developer, visit Hitcents website who developed it. com.hitcents.drawastickmanepic3.apk apps can be downloaded and installed on Android 4.4.x and higher Android devices. The Latest Version of 1.2.17408 Available for download. Download the app using your favorite browser and click Install to install the application. Please note that we provide both basic and pure APK files and faster download speeds than APK Mirror. This app APK has been downloaded 8923+ times on store. You can also download com.hitcents.drawastickmanepic3 APK and run it with the popular Android Emulators.

Played over 100 Million Times around the Globe and a winner of 5 Webby Awards, DRAW A STICKMAN is back and more EPIC than ever before!

Your creativity will be maximized in the all-new Draw a Stickman: EPIC 3! Embark upon an exhilarating new adventure to defeat the Corruption: solve fun puzzles, outsmart crafty monsters, and discover an all-new world! So grab your freshly penciled Hero—it’s time to be EPIC!

**Try the demo for free before buying the full experience.**

Use the new, intricate drawing tools to design the perfect Hero! Be as creative as you want—your Hero can be anything you can draw!

Store unlimited drawings of Heroes and Tools in your new Sketchbook! Swap between these at any time to spice up your gameplay with all your favorite characters!

Venture around the new Hub World and meet other characters in the Stickman universe! See what they have to say and what they need you to do!

Adventure through new levels packed with secrets, collectibles, and hidden pathways!

Lots of new monsters to outwit! Be on the lookout for Oozes, Trolls, Bully Goats, and—perhaps the most fearsome of them all—an Evil Hamster!

Find the lost Color Buddies to add rich, new colors to your drawings!

Use your nifty new pencils to bamboozle bosses and bring to life the world around you!

Unlock new hidden areas as you find coloring guides, tool blueprints, and pencils! Can you earn 3 Stars on every level?

You’ll see plenty of new characters and some surprisingly familiar faces on this new adventure! Who are they? It’s a secret! Are you ready for an EPIC new adventure?

App ChangeLog

  • Bug fixes. Improved Stylus support. Improved Achievement and Quest tracking.

App Screens

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  1. guest-avatar

    Ok. I would rate this higher but the in app purchase to access levels is nah. I understand game companies need to make money but the purchases for levels is Terrible. I would rate higher if people had told me the levels were not free. I was excited to see where this series could go after epic 2. Not one youtubers mentioned that "Hey guys, I payed for the levels they arent free" I have the free version of Epic 2 on my Tablet and that is fine.

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    This is a really good game honestly, but the second half for money? I've been reading the reviews lately and not much people like that. In my words, I think you guys need to find another feature that will cost money. It may also be a bad idea, since other people can illegally download an APK of this game and have the full version for free.

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    The graphics and gameplay are good but 1. Why do i need to pay for the full game? Its only 25 levels if there are only 5 chapters each only having three levels in which case if not trying to 100% the game may take under an hour to finish 2. Why doesn't my Samsung note 9 stylus not work with the game properly but a cheap one off amazon does, as when i use my note 9 stylus i can't draw or walk the way i want to 3. Why not make a free version with ads and a paid one with no adds and bonuses?

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    GLITCHES! I loved the og draw a stickman epic games. This one looked great to! I paid for the full version and am verry disapointed. There are bugs everywhere. It should not have been released with this many bugs. Just when im actualy starting to enjoy the gameplay, a glitch pops up and i either have restart the level, or restart the app! Its rediculas how many glitches there are. And dont get me started about the lag. Anytime you equip a tool, it lags like crazy. I don't recommend this game.

  5. guest-avatar

    This Game Is A Great Sequel That ACTUALLY CONTINUES THE OLD STORY But The Game Feels Rushed It's Not Any Different Then The Beta (or whatever) The Graphics Are Better, And The Drawing Menu Actually Has Everything Except An Eraser But The Voices Of The Characters Sound Like The Old "Voice Actors (kind of)" Lost Their Vocabulary And Recorded Their Gibberish On Their Phone, One Last Thing Is That The Game Seems Quite Short And Difficult (can't fit anything else) (also played on steam)

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    I played the first two levels and then I had to pay to continue this game really just sucks I just can't even play it I mean yeah sure I did do the first two levels but like come on I have to pee and it's also not that much but I'm a kid in my parents are going to pay this for me so this sucks and also the graphics are amazing but everything else and I want to try out the new fire crayon

  7. guest-avatar

    This is an awesome game. It's like that game fancy pants but with your own character. Only problem is when I draw my stickman, I use the pen that comes with my phone but it only makes small dots. Could you fix this problem?

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    Bobbie Capewell


    Very laggy. I cant believe theres a pay wall for a game that laggs this much, and is so... clunky. I cant even move my character and i just die because slimes take all of my lives before I can even move. I loved the first two games but this isnt as good

  9. guest-avatar

    Good game but I feel like epic 2 is better. Epic 3 is too laggy and has a little bit worse control. ( For the reply just everywhere I have a little bit of lag. )Ps. I'm a kid and don't know how to do that sorry.

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    I love the new game it's more 3d ish but DANTDM is ganna love the game but there is a problem. .. it gliched when I finished one part on the story it gliched then kicked me off the app please fix this but overall I love the game Dan is ganna flip🤗

  11. guest-avatar

    This game is good but when you run out of revives you gotta start the whole level again like what the heck? Also there is a glitch on when you die when you were drawing with the fire or water or life or whatever pencil it stays there which is sorta annoying pls fix it

  12. guest-avatar

    I like the game there just one problem when you're away from the wall there's like an anoeying thing that you can go through with the walls texture and it makes it where you can't what's close to the wall I don't know if it supoffe To be in the game but still can you get rid of it

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    Strawberries Like Me


    Hi hitcents! I think this game is good. It has cool new way to get the purple goo away, And I think there graphics are good. I have one problem though. Lag.

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    Great game.i really thought it wouldn't be like part 2 where you have to download 1 but no it is awesome but ain't fair just let the game have free levels Like leave all the levels free pls do it,although great game,I am still struggling on level 2 chapter 1 and pls make this game free leveled Or I'm deleting this game

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    The rawring dog


    Really good game as far as I can tell,but I've heard you need money for the full version,while that sucks the game its self is amazing,I hope that there will be a full version for free

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    Braden Williams


    Hi I never got to play the game☹️. I saw this on YouTube and I didn't know it was out so I downloaded it and you won't believe what happend.It.I try to load it up it got to 90% I whated ten minutes and it does not load. But I love the draw a stick Man epic series👌

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    TheGoldPotato 89


    I love it. The whole thing has changed my life. I can only point out that the movement is not going well, but that's excused by the high quality of it. Other games were brilliant, and this one did not fail to be just like them. 5/5 stars.

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    Farwizah Farzanah


    I love the game but the problem is that its too laggy when i turn off the wifi it needs connection without wifi it won't make it laggy is it online or offline? Online needs wifi and online is play with friends like ROBLOX. offline don't need wifi and offline is playing alone.

  19. guest-avatar

    Why I give a one-star it's a good game but stop making us buy the full version I'm sick and tired of it just make it free at first it's fun but when you get chapter three it's like buy this so you can continue on you think I have money for that stuff I will rate all your stars 1 if you continue just make the game free

  20. guest-avatar

    I like ot because you can make you're character the reason why I think this should get a 3 star is be cause you can only do 2 levels and the rest you have to pay money to go to the next level I think you should make it free for us plz

  21. guest-avatar

    dude, the frame rate is atrotious. and i know its not my device because it has over 4GB of RAM. please fix this ASAP. ive brought the full version and id like to enjoy it without it feeling like im playing a microsoft powerpoint simulator

  22. guest-avatar

    Harlyn Bharwani


    Hello! Although the game really great and new, it's extremely laggy (has much lag). I tried this on my chromebook and my phone, yet the lag is the same. Please fix this :(

  23. guest-avatar

    It is good but I still have to say it needs a small update for redrawing your stickman because I dont know how to change it. Edit:It's ok your games are great o here's a 5 star review :)

  24. guest-avatar

    Radoslava Minkova


    A good game yes but there is something only one thing I have to pay for the full game! I'm just a kid I completed the first two levels of chapter 1 but then stuff got boring the game got soo boring there was almost nothing to do it's so boring now

  25. guest-avatar

    I like the game BUT epic 2 (I dont play the first one) had parts that are not free. I completed the first level of the third game, but I dont know if the rest is free or not. If it's not free then that's ok but I want to know if the rest is free or not before I continue the game. Edit: Ok thanks.

  26. guest-avatar

    I played stickman epic 1 and 2 and this is good but I think 2 is better bc I think it is challenging but this one is different hopefully I didn't waste your time hitcents keep up the good work👏10x 1st boss 5+ trys 2nd boss 4+ trys final boss it was hard but it only took 2 TRYS can't wait for the next one🙄

  27. guest-avatar

    I liked this game a lot, but i don't like i need to pay for the full game, it has 2 levels demo and rest 6-10 levels, but i am giving 3 stars because the game's cute

  28. guest-avatar

    I've been waiting for this game ever since I got the first draw Stickman well not the first draw Stickman the one that literally is just black and white it's insane that I get to play draw Stickman epic 3 I never thought there'd be a 3rd draw Stickman well can you fix the purple color palette to not be pink

  29. guest-avatar

    This is an amazing game with amazing graphics but you can't complete it without paying money and your only aloud to play 2 levels without paying money, 2!!!

  30. guest-avatar

    Hi! So I downloaded the app today but for some reason it keeps crashing before I even have a chance to play the game :( it just shows me the hitcents logo and then crashes :/. Not sure why this is happening so if you could help that would be great!

  31. guest-avatar

    Heather MacKinnon


    Really good, Hitcents! Except for when I need to pay to get the full game after 2 levels. Still really good though!

  32. guest-avatar

    Its a good game but you just can play 2 level the other level you must pay but it was too pricey i like the game but because of you must pay the game is now pay to win and i dont like it but if you dont put a price i will give 5 stars

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    David the gs channel


    It's good but the gameplay is barely fun cuz it is crappy why do I need to pay when I've only played 2 levels? It crashes so much. So its a 2/10 terrible...

  34. guest-avatar

    The game play is great I love that u don't have to buy the full game but that's is some lags like the game some times freezes I know that it is still a game in progress overall great game and plz fix the bugs

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    Leeshane Clarke


    The game is good over all but there is one thing I don't like and that is you did not make a website were people can put there artwork like you did for Draw a Stickman: EPIC 2

  36. guest-avatar

    I love this game! Its so fun, everytime i get bored i play it it will be nice if there will be a fourth part! Still i love this game.

  37. guest-avatar

    It sucks it was really glitch and I was hoping that it will be awesome it stops for no reason when I started in the cut seen a wall for some reason followed the screen and I could barley see anything

  38. guest-avatar

    XDFoxyPlayz Returns


    I loved part 1 and 2 but part 3 is much better! I love all the levels and puzzles! So much fun! 😍

  39. guest-avatar

    Awesome game! It's just like Epic 2, but even cooler! So many features! I do suggest an option to change your characters voice to be Male or female.

  40. guest-avatar

    Love the game but when you hit the free purchase discount it doesn't work and you can't do anything about it so you can't even play the rest of the game so you can't do anything else ; (

  41. guest-avatar

    Finally this game out but in chapter 1 level 3 is a scam?!?!! I just only want to play that level but you need to remove the pass because level 3 I stop in there forever

  42. guest-avatar

    I wish you could pay for the full game with ingame currency but it would be like tons of the ingame currency just because some people don't trust paying with their PayPal etc. Same things with the other draw a stickman games

  43. guest-avatar

    Don't know why everyones complaining great Originall game yes you have to buy later levels which is not so good but don't need Wi-Fi., no stop and starting. And graphics suit game.

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    JJM Productions LIMITED


    Amazing game I love it the only thing is I'm not aloud to buy the full game but its OK as I might get it soon I love the other games too so keep up the good work 😄

  45. guest-avatar

    I loved this game but the game is put in a paywall!!!! I waited TO long for this and it's BLOCKED BY A PAYWALL would give 5 stars if the HOLE game is free

  46. guest-avatar

    I played this on my pc and its beautiful i highly suggest you play the 1st one 2nd one and this one the 3rd is super beautiful and i hope they make a 4th one thats even better.

  47. guest-avatar

    This game is honestly just straight up AWSOME! if you have money you NEED TO PLAY THIS GAME! But as a child.. I just hate how these games cost money :( I miss the old version of epic stickman 2 where it was all free... Then now it costs money. :( WHY HITCEEEEEEENTSSSSS????!!!!! :( WHAT HAPPENED TO THESE PRECIOUS GAMES?! :( do you need money for a project or something pls tell mehhhhh! Hmm actually.. I take it back I'm pretty sure you guys need the money for such a big community so.. I'm sorry

  48. guest-avatar

    Stop making us pay to play other levels I always been trying to play your other games for free but i want to get all levels for free NOW! Alright I'll see

  49. guest-avatar

    David Aaron Santos


    5 STARS FOR THE GAME! This is so cool that I liked it oh and there are some easter eggs like the corruption pencil I saw at the end of the game but one thing is for sure that when I get an achievement, it didn't count on my play games even when it said "you played stickman epic 3" so can you please fix that I rated 5 stars UWU. edit: thanks for feedbacking me but I forgot to mention that every time I swap tools (not pencils) theres a bug so can you fix that too pls

  50. guest-avatar

    The game is fun but the control is bad. Screen frozen and lagging lead to the death under monsters.

  51. guest-avatar

    Really cool game, im happy to finnaly see a 3rd part. Its just pretty laggy so I hope that will be patched in the future

  52. guest-avatar

    Izzy Istafa Aka f0x4wd - Roblox


    Pls Stop Making us Pay money I Just wanna explore the game it's fun if This is EA I will end my life If u do make more paid to win thingies I will stop playing this game and It Sucks when u need to pay We are all bored Durning Quarantine And Some the paid levels Could be impossible to beat so that's why This looks like a scam And Ik The game back in the day game it was pretty simple I was a big fan of the game and one the best feature in the game u can search other people creation and copy it

  53. guest-avatar

    Terrible!, this game is laggy, and its annoying!! I tried to make this water AND it keeps lagging!! ITS SO TERIBLE TERRIBLE AS HECK!!

  54. guest-avatar

    The levels should be free like the game and the premium ones should be armor pencil and the bushes as companions.

  55. guest-avatar

    Hencent I I am disappointed (crys a little) I played draw a stickman epic 2 and 1 they were fun but now I am sad make it like a sqeul to epic 2 but it's not its completely different I am MAD

  56. guest-avatar

    Subha Govind Tiwari


    This is the excellent 👍👏😆 game but I upset to this mode which is online 😒 This is very bad thing So, I give only 4 stars in everything! I m sorry say about that

  57. guest-avatar

    I wish you could fight a boss before paying for the full game. with that, the player understands whats going on.

  58. guest-avatar

    Hitcents I would like to rate 5 stars of your game but why? Chapter 1 and level 3 pay up why? I like your game but why? Chapter 1 level 3 have to pay up? Look I just a kid because I like your game. And please update please!

  59. guest-avatar

    I love the stickman adventures. I've done them all so far and now I'm glad I'm able to work my way through this one too. 😁

  60. guest-avatar

    Jaydens imagination


    The game was very cool...good job it's better than epic 2 but please dont make every game with premium

  61. guest-avatar

    Stefania Delbianco


    This game keeps kicking me out of the game so I hope you can fix that bug and if you fix it maybe I'll change review

  62. guest-avatar

    Finally the game is free like draw your stickman epic 2 but... the draw your stickman epic 2 is not free like the demo is free... but this time draw your stickman epic 3 is free finally finally thank you hitcents thank you thank you very much thank you!!!!!

  63. guest-avatar

    All of your games are so cool! Your animations in the stickmans everything! Best game ever 10/10

  64. guest-avatar

    Dude, you kinda need to make this game more stable, because it is very laggy as if it was a stop-motion movie, and also, i can't type. Please fix this. And by the way, you should make this game an offline game, because for me, others in poor regions might not have internet and they cant play. Okay....

  65. guest-avatar

    Good game but just like All the stickman games you have made you have to pay money to go level 3 and onward

  66. guest-avatar

    Abdulla Alhussaini


    It is nice but is hard to find secrets and edit so I only have square.

  67. guest-avatar

    i was so excited for this game the only problem is i miss the old characters also i dont know why people are complaining last time i check the other games needed wifi too

  68. guest-avatar

    It is laggy I can barely draw and when u copy it u can't undo it I'm uninstalling this Cuz when I draw and I just give up Cuz it's a waist of time and when I play the game it's also a waist of time fix it plz

  69. guest-avatar

    Amazing! Thank you for making a third. Although, I do wish you didn't have to pay for the full version.

  70. guest-avatar

    Good but I wish you could give us the full versions of these games but with ads so we could play all 3 of them

  71. guest-avatar

    Well I give this game a rate of 3 stars because (1: the game is still buggy and sometimes the game show "Draw wind" but I didn't even click the colour pencil 2: I wish the game has graphic settings so people can chose low for people who has had phone quality not being rude) ok that's all for my comment so creator of draw a stickman epic 3 please fix the bug that I mentioned in this comment please fix it and ill give it a 5 stars review for the fix also more that I can write good luck owner

  72. guest-avatar

    Okay. Another very stupid game... The first and second DAS needs money to play other levels!!! This one, it's new! The graphics are now more good! But now, it needs wifi?! Are you out of your mind?! You've got now money then you need this wifi? Hey you! your games are the most stupid games in my phone!! I had now wifi and I tried and tried almost 38 times not SUCCESSFUL!!! Your game is so dumb! I'm very kind if you see me in real life but I'm getting OUT OF PATIENTCE! You'll gonna sorry for this

  73. guest-avatar

    Leonora Lalangan


    The game is great! But...I don't like that you have to pay to unlock all the levels.

  74. guest-avatar

    Fix the wind because it is practically impossible to use to fight the second boss

  75. guest-avatar

    Rayan Al Mansour


    yeah they are all right I jest playet 2 levels and then I have to pay why we have to pay there are kids playing these game and if they need to pay they will Be sad make it free to play please

  76. guest-avatar

    Won't connect my purchase. Restarted tablet and book is still locked and asked for purchase. Purchased again. Now I have paid twice for this game. How do I get a refund?

  77. guest-avatar

    I like the game but there is a bug because it's on one chapter if hit checkpoint ts resets me

  78. guest-avatar

    I give 2 star cuz when i play the first stage i already walking backwords even i did not touch the screen and when i use the pencil it glitch when touch the screen and then i got stuck in the pencil so i touch back then i can walk but the pencil still active so i just press home. Bdw when i walk in the first stage it was so broken, like when i touch the screen the stik man walk but when he is in my spot that i touch he walk again and again so i cant stop him. Pls fix this and give 5 star.

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    hobby cookie coolfoxyguy gaming


    make it where it loads faster. and is there a full verison because i dont have a lot of money make the full verison free for people who got the game when it come out ok

  80. guest-avatar

    I have played all of your games but not been able to finish them bc of the paywall but i sill love them all

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    Leanne Williams


    This game is amazing I am a big fan of all your stickman epic games I even bought the 2nd one on my ps4. I hope you make more.thanks for the awesome effort. What is even better is I love fantasy so I'm saying your making each game better and better.

  82. guest-avatar

    I like the idea but just too much lag. I just like the 2nd game better I guess?

  83. guest-avatar

    It great but I hate the way how you have to buy the levels I only get 2 level

  84. guest-avatar

    Alexander Struiksma


    very good but at lvl 3 chapter 1 the boss went of the cliff and now i cant get the pencil which is sad

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    Elizabeth Crucetts


    This game is great but you do have to pay $4 but everything else is great about this game you should download it right now sorry did I say you should I met you have to or else😁😂😃😄😃😄😃

  86. guest-avatar

    GREAT GAME 5 STARS! I like that you cam draw and have en EPIC ADVENTURE!

  87. guest-avatar

    i love this game is AMAZING and i love the graphig of the game too i will RATE THIS GAME 5 STARS coz i love this game and its soo fun too i like it i can create my own stick man. i like this game thank you for making this game for us

  88. guest-avatar

    It really fun but you to need to buy something to come on playing

  89. guest-avatar

    i loved it. its like everything is more alive and super colorfull i love it.

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    Aidan Dela Cruz



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    thomas griffiths


    Not sure but game keeps frezzing .epic 2 is no problem but 3 no luck

  92. guest-avatar

    I purchase the full version of the game but unable to access it. I have emailed you a couple times about it but I'm getting no response.

  93. guest-avatar

    Its Great But i Don't like how you need too pay too get all the levels

  94. guest-avatar

    Kelly Dominguez


    Best game ever but why would you ever do this only just two levels bad why don't you make it like to the end it's so boring but I'm so sorry

  95. guest-avatar

    The game is back! I never knew that game was back. When i played this game my mind went blown! I gave this game for 5 stars because the animate was good and more, more, more!

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    Kenneth Saranillo


    Umm i have been a hard time doing this but.... it was great! the graphics are like Draw a Stickman: EPIC 2 and New Characters! AND FUN PUZZLES! #5STARSGREATJOB!

  97. guest-avatar

    I love this game please make a fourth version thank you from making this wonderful game thank you goodbye going to play play more of it😃😃

  98. guest-avatar

    Dude 1 on level 2 of world 1 the game just broke like i was about to beat it an it crashed so then it got rid of all my data im rating this 1 star fix your dam game an i cant beat level 2 AN MAKE IT SO WE CAN PLAY 6 OR 7 LEVRLS ITS PISSED ME OFF

  99. guest-avatar

    This game is amazing. It's like an upgraded version of stickman 2.

  100. guest-avatar

    It's a really good game but I'm sad that I godda pay to play the rest of the story....